Welcome to my last Q & A post for 2021. I know I have been sparse this year with Q & A features due to my world turning upside down, but I couldn’t end off the year without sharing the news here from one of my oldest blogging friends, Deborah Jay, who has just released Book 4 in her 5 Kingdoms series – The Prince’s Heir.

About Deborah Jay:
Deborah Jay writes epic fantasy and urban fantasy featuring complex, quirky characters and multi-layered plots – just what she likes to read.
Fortunate to live near Loch Ness in the majestic, mystery-filled Scottish Highlands with her partner and a pack of rescue dogs, she can often be found lurking in secluded glens and forests, researching locations for her books.
She has a dream day job riding, training, and judging, competition dressage horses and riders, and also writes books and magazine features on the subject under her professional name of Debby Lush.
A lifelong fan of science fiction and fantasy, she started writing her first novel aged eight, and has never stopped. Her first published novel is epic fantasy, THE PRINCE’S MAN, first in the Five Kingdoms series, and winner of a UK Arts Council award. #2, THE PRINCE’S SON and #3, THE
PRINCE’S PROTEGE are both available with the concluding book in the quartet, THE PRINCE’S HEIR, released December 14th 2021.

Blurb:
Read the gripping conclusion to The Five Kingdoms series…
King Marten’s reign balances on a blade’s edge. Chel’s Casket, symbol of his right to rule, is missing. Can master spies, Rustam and Risada, recover it before someone notices its absence and challenges Marten’s sovereignty? Or is there a more sinister motive behind the disappearance of the casket—a relic that could be used to raise the demon god, Charin.
As a series of natural disasters besets the kingdoms, evidence points towards interference by the meddlesome deity, and the terrifying prospect of war between its two opposing aspects.
When Marten’s beloved wife, Betha, and their infant daughter vanish, Marten faces a stark choice: save his family, or try to save his kingdom from a conflict that threatens all humanity.
Excerpt from Prince’s Heir
“Risada,” said Marten in a tone that sent ice crawling down her spine. “There’s something we didn’t tell you last year. We thought it would never be an issue once we’d destroyed Charin’s Cult.”
The king paused, pursing his lips. Blood pounded through Risada’s head, filling the silence. She felt nauseous. What had they kept from her, and why?
Marten drew a deep breath, then continued. “You know they wanted our child. What you don’t know is that things came to a head when you returned with Halson. Charin wanted a child of the royal bloodline, and it seems Hal’s would have satisfied Him as much as mine.”
Risada gripped the back of a nearby chair, clinging to that spot of reality in a world turned hazy.
Halson! Charin wanted her son!
A fierce rush of protectiveness blasted through her. She would die before she allowed that to happen. Staring into Marten’s eyes, she saw the same intent reflected there. Of course, he and Betha had been willing to sacrifice themselves before, and now he feared Betha might be forced to make that call again.
“We won’t let it come to that; I promise.” She took one of his hands and squeezed it, but he shrugged and disengaged his grip.
“Sadly, that’s not something you can promise. Not where Charin’s involved. I’ve faced Him, remember? I was lucky to survive, and I don’t give much for my chances if it comes to a rerun.”
“Marten.” Risada employed the same tone she used when Halson was being difficult. “You’re not alone in this. You will never be alone to deal with such an attack again; that I can promise.
Let’s get to know more about Deb’s writing and dressage life in our Q & A session:

How many books have you written? Do you have a favorite of your books and if so, why?
Nine so far, plus novellas and short stories. Two non-fiction books on horse training (my day job), one SF (not published), five epic fantasy (one not published) and one urban fantasy. The unpublished books were where I cut my writer’s teeth, learning about plot, pace, and technique. One day I’d love to revisit them, but with so many other projects on the go, who knows if I’ll find the time?
My favorite book will always be the last one I finished. If you are anything like me, as we write more books our style changes, develops and (hopefully) improves. I am still proud as punch of my first published novel – THE PRINCE’S MAN – which in the early days before self-publishing, netted me two agents and a slew of positive feedback from the Big Six (as they were in those days) publishers, although no contract. Now, I’m really happy it didn’t sell – I would never have been allowed to write the sequels the way they’ve turned out, and I wouldn’t have control of my own career.
D.G. – You’ve certainly come a long way my busy friend. And yes, you are spot on, the more books we write, of course, our styles change as we learn new things. How many of us would like to go back and rewrite all our published books? Lol 🙂
What’s your opinion on self-publishing?
As a hybrid author – both traditionally and indie published – I can definitely say the latter is far and away my preferred route. Not only do I get to write what I want, when I want, I also earn a markedly higher percentage of the income from my indie published books (70% from Amazon, 60% from some other platforms, paid each month) than I do from my trad published books (10% from my publisher, paid annually).
Sure, traditional publishers can get you into bricks-and-mortar stores, but that’s far less important since Covid struck, closing so many, or forcing them to sell online. Publishers also have extremely limited funds available for marketing, and contracted authors are expected to do most of the grunt work themselves – marketing, networking, selling in person, etc. – so I’d rather put my efforts into my indie books for a higher return.
D.G. – My sentiments exactly Deb. And I’ve heard same thoughts from a few different authors who left trad to take control of their own books. 🙂
Did you have a passion to write as a child? Do you remember the first thing you wrote?
I don’t know about a passion, I just always assumed I would write. It seemed the natural progression – read other people’s stuff, then write your own.
As a child, comics took my interest, and my earlier attempts at writing were accompanied by awful illustrations (I’m no artist). When my mother died a couple of years ago, in amongst her papers (she was also a writer) I found what must be my earliest attempt, aged about 6 – ‘The travels of Sammy Snail – Scotland here I come’. Weirdly prophetic, as at that time I had never been to Scotland, nor had any of my family, and yet that’s precisely where I now live.
After that, came ‘The Adventures of Galloper’, another illustrated comic book, and then ‘Samantha the Adventurous Poodle’, a novel which failed at chapter 3 because it had no plot!
D.G. – What a gorgeous find! I know you have tons on your plate and agenda, but wouldn’t it be fun if you revised and published her work in a children’s book someday, authored by both of you? Food for thought. 🙂
Would you like to share with us what upcoming projects and/or ideas for books you’re working on?
While this week’s release brings to a conclusion the main story of one set of characters, I still have plenty of other tales to tell about them. One of the best aspects of self-publishing is the option to publish books of any size. I already wrote one short story that fits in between books #1 & #2, with another underway. I plan to write a set of them, with the ultimate goal of gathering them into a book of their own.
I have also plotted out and started a novella, telling the back story of a minor character who grew to become a major force in books #3 & 4. In addition, years ago, I wrote the novel that takes place before this set, so I plan on going back and rewriting that to a publishable standard too.
Beyond that, I have a rough outline for the next sequence of books, featuring the next generation. I’ve set up a lot of worldbuilding ready for them to walk right into, so, although the over-arching plot appears to end in book #4, it has a lot further to go – I’m thinking maybe 10 books in all?
Next up is putting together a boxset of books #1 – #4, and start editing for audiobook production – something I still have to dip my toe in. I also have one novel and a short story published in an urban fantasy series, with 6 chapters of the next book already done and just waiting for me to pick it up again.
Finally (as if that lot wasn’t enough!), I am currently writing a commissioned non-fiction book on horse training to go with the two already published, and sketching out two new in-person presentations now we are allowed to do such things again.
I’m certainly never short of stuff to do!
D.G. – You’re a machine girl! I hate to add to your plate, but I was hoping you would come out with a sequel to Desprite Measures with your Cassie character. 🙂
Do you edit and proofread your own work solely or do you hire an editor?
Neither!
I’m really fortunate to have worked with an awesome writer’s group for many years – thirty, to be precise! Members have come and gone, but the core has remained. New members have to put in an audition piece, so we can assess the standard of their writing. If we feel they aren’t ready to join us yet we point them towards where they can find more basic help to develop.
The group consists of (almost) exclusively published authors – some short fiction writers, some novelists. We do include a uni student, reading creative writing (what else?), but fundamentally we all write professional pieces that sell. We used to meet in person once a month, now we do it on Zoom, which means a couple of former members who moved away have rejoined.
One of the best aspects is that between us we cover a wide range of professions and interests, such as a medical doctor, a computer programmer, a travel writer, and a stand-up comic! Between the lot of us, we’re pretty darned good at the whole gamut of editing. And knowing we will all be on the receiving end at some point, we’ve become well practiced at constructive critiquing – the best sort of group.
D.G. – Sounds like a great plan and a wonderful and eclectic bunch of writers! 🙂
What was the inspiration behind the series you’ve just completed?
I was always frustrated that the super-spy, James Bond, was never allowed (until now!) to develop as a character. Enter my leading man, Rustam Chalice – a shallow, womanizing, spy. During THE PRINCE’S MAN, alongside the action and politics, everything he thought he knew is challenged and proven to be false, bringing about profound changes to his life, which continues to develop through the entire series.
I chose a fantasy setting partly because of my love for Lord of the Rings, but also because of the incredible scope available to my imagination. I can do whatever I want with the world (provided it’s consistent and makes sense), which allows me to put my characters through a crucible unlike anything they would experience in a real-world setting.
Out of these two things came tagline for the series: Think James Bond meets Lord of the Rings.
D.G. – Brilliant concept! 🙂
It was a pleasure having you over today Deb. I wish you much success with your new release, and no doubts the Prince’s Man fans for this series are anxiously awaiting this new release.
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©DGKaye2021
Great Q&A session today, Debby. Deborah is really busy and it was very interesting to learn about how her series came about and her future plans. Oh, and what gorgeous covers!
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Thank you Olga, I love Debby’s questions; they really make you dig deep!
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Thanks so much Olga. Yes, Deb is a dynamo, and her covers are always gorgeous. Thanks for stopping by ❤
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This is a fabulous interview, Debby and Deborah! I loved the deeper insight into the world of Deborah Jay! Best wishes and Happy Holidays!
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Thanks Jan, I love the way every interview we do shines a light on another corner 😀
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Thanks so much Jan. So glad you enjoyed. ❤
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Wow, only 10% royalties from a traditional publisher? Is that the norm with all of them? But then again perhaps there are more books sold than with Indie publishing? Great interview, Debby. Thanks to Deborah for the information. x
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Glad you enjoyed Stevie. Yes, Deb certainly has experience with publishing in both realms! 🙂 xx
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Oh yes, Stevie, 10% is the standard royalty payment, and if you have an agent, they take their own cut (usually 15 – 20%) out of that. Doesn’t leave you with much.
As to numbers sold, unless you are selling (fiction) near the 100,000 + you are likely to have your contract terminated. You used to be allowed to build up, and mid-list authors were expected to sell around the 40-50K, but these days the big publishers are no longer interested in you unless you are an instant success. Several friends ended up moving to small presses as a result.
Smaller numbers are fine for non-fiction, especially if it’s a specialised subject like mine.
The majority of books published never sell more than 500 copies – a shockingly low figure.
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Thanks for this info, Deborah. I think unless you’re a celebrity these days you don’t stand much of a chance getting an agent for your novel.
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Some people do, but you stand a far better chance if you have a ‘name’.
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This is an interesting conversation, Deborah and Stevie. It seems to me that the big publishers have turned to “reality TV” books for publishing written by celebrities who really have nothing much to say [in my opinion] but which the public lap up. This is exactly why I generally only buy books from Amazon and Lulu.com because the book shops are filled with books by politicians and others who I don’t want to read about in the press never mind in my leisure time. Apologies if that sounds a bit mean, but that is how I feel.
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I totally understand and agree with you!
To be fair, though, I just read Richard Osman’s murder mystery, ‘The Thursday Murder Club’, and it was pretty good!
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I hear you Robbie! x
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Terrific Q&A Debby and congratulations Deborah on your new release.. wishing you much success with it. ♥
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Thank you Sally, and my first review on this one is in – a lovely 5 star!
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Fantastic Deborah. very happy for you..xx
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Thanks bunches Sal. Prince fans have a new edition just in time for the holidays. ❤ xx
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Really interesting interview. I find Deborah’s blog posts to be friendly and as though she’s talking to me. This was like that! Great point about “traditional publishers can get you into bricks-and-mortar stores, but that’s far less important since Covid struck”. That makes a lot of sense.
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That’s lovely to hear, Jacqui, I do try to write just how it would be if we were in conversation, it seems so much more friendly than being a bit too formal. That’s the challenge I have right now with the commissioned non-fiction book – I’m back to writing in a very restricted house style. Another big reason I prefer writing to satisfy myself and not a publisher!
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I can well imagine that Deb, having to switch your voice 🙂
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I learned to do it when I did some journalism – you have to write in the house style of each publication. Takes a bit of research before you begin!
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Glad you enjoyed Jacqui. Deb offers some great info here. ❤
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Thanks for the interview Debby, it was terrific fun! The only problem I had was choosing which questions to answer, but I guess that leaves me with others for the future!
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Anytime my friend. You are welcome here. We all appreciate the valuable information you’ve hared with us. ❤
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wonderful interview – it’s good to know about the advantage of the indie route and the power of being part of a writing group…
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So glad you enjoyed Jim 🙂
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I love my writers group, but I should add a small word of caution, Jim – it has to be the RIGHT set of people. Some groups can be demoralising and destructive, so if you plan on joining one, take a while to make sure the people are knowledgeable and positive in their approach.
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Fact Deb! Good point! 🙂
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Wonderful interview and Loved reading the Questions and Answers.. Congratulations Deborah on your latest book release… And wow… from the age of Eight, you certainly fulfilled your wishes and manifested your dreams.. 🙂
Good to be back in the reader again Debby…. Been too long… And I have missed being here dear friend… Hope you are also healing dear one… Much love to your heart from mine.. ❤
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Hi Sue. Lovely to see you hear and leaving a lovely comment for Deb and me both. Yes! I’m finally here on WordPress, now everyone can find me without having the life sucked out of them, lol. Just need to get past next weekend Sue, not anything I will be participating in. Christmas is cancelled for this year. ❤ xx
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I can well understand that dear Debby, one of the hardest hurdles is Christmas without a loved one.. So you have my heart dear one… Sending lots of love and so great to be able to see your instant reply LOL…. Now all I need to do is get myself back into the habit of logging back into WP…. Taking my own time in easing back into the fray Lol..
Though I have a post pending in drafts.. Good to feel your energy again Debby ❤ Much Love
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Thanks for your love Sue. And I’m happy to see you back here too. I look forward to your next post. I noticed your absence. ❤ xoxoxo
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Thank you Sue, glad you enjoyed the interview. I know I did!
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My pleasure in reading ❤
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I can relate to early writings with accompanied artwork that wasn’t so great. I did a lot of that as a child, too. It’s wonderful to hear that others did the same.
I love fantasy, and those book covers look awesome.
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Thanks so much Diane. Deb will be delighted. 🙂 x
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Diane, I’m tickled to hear I wasn’t the only one as well!
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I enjoyed this interview with Deborah. As someone wrestling with the Indie vs. traditional publishing path, I like reading the thoughts of those who have tried both.
Working with horses does sound like the dream job.
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Thanks Hugh. I think as writers, we’re always interested to learn the difference in the two publishing avenues and Deb has generously shared her take here with us. 🙂 x
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I do get the attraction of traditional, we would all love to be the next JK Rowling, I’ve just accepted how unlikely that is and after doing all the marketing work on my trad published books with very little assistance from my publisher, I can happily say I’ve found my preferred route.
And working with horses is a dream job ❤
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A wonderful interview and it’s interesting to read about the comparisons between a publishing house and indie publishing pus the advantages of belonging to a good writing group :)xx Plus its great to be able to access your blog with such ease and fast good move, Deb 🙂 xx
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Writer’s groups are fab if you find the right one! I did try a couple of others before joining this one – some of them are just not worth the time. On the other side, they can be invaluable if its a good one.
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Yay, those are all positives! Thanks so much Carol. So nice to see you pop over. ❤
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The Prince’s Heir showed up in my kindle! I’m looking forward to finishing the series, Deborah. And I cracked up at “‘Samantha the Adventurous Poodle’, a novel which failed at chapter 3 because it had no plot!” Lol. Hey, I’ve read books by adults with no plots, so don’t feel bad. Great interview, Deborah and Debby. Happy Reading, and have a wonderful holiday season. Hugs.
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Thanks so much Diana for your comment and lovely wishes. Wishing you and yours a beautiful Christmas. ❤
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Ooh, that’s fabulous Diana, I’m looking forward to hearing what you think of it!
And I know what you mean, perhaps I should have kept going with Samantha 😀
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Of course, I’ll review and post. 🙂
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Hi Debby, a most interesting interview and it has made me happy with my decision to stay with my current small publisher.
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It’s a thorny topic, Robbie, but sounds like you’ve made the right choice for you. I do think it’s important to be informed on the up-to-date state of play with the publishing industry – I come across lots of writers who are still pursuing a traditional publishing in the mistaken belief the industry is still the same as it was 20 years ago.
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Yes, that is my experience too. And it most definitely isn’t the same, it is very much a business now.
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So glad to hear that Deb’s info has helped cement your decision Robbie ❤
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Lots of interesting comments and replies here. Looks like your new blog home is working out fine for you, Deb!
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Thanks John. So I’m noticing too. Many have let me know how much easier it is to visit and comment at my blog, lol, it only took me 3 years to move away from Nodaddy 🙂
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Glad you found the discussion interesting John, publishing is always a hot topic!
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What a lovely interview, Sis. I enjoy Deborah’s books. Looking forward to catching up on this series. ❤
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Thanks for sharing that Sis. I love Deb’s writing. I’m waiting for her to create a series from her ‘Desprite Measures’ book with some great characters. ❤
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Oh, I need to read more of her books. I’ve subscribed to KU so I can continue reading all these great books. ❤
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I have all mine on KU. ❤
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I need to read more of yours, too! ❤
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Deb, I have the next book in the sprite series underway, I just need the time to write it! I’ve concentrated on the Five Kingdoms series as it’s my best seller, but I miss Cassie and her snarky attitude ❤
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Yes! That is fantastic! I look forward to that one. I think Cassie has the ability to have a series of stories. Love the snark! ❤
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I have at least 5 planned, and that’s without thinking too hard about it…
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Oooh, I’m excited! xx
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Aw Colleen, thank you.
Sadly for you, my books are not in KU, I tried it with very little success, admittedly several years ago, but I find I sell enough on the other platforms to be worth being wide.
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That’s wonderful! ❤️🎄❤️
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A fascinating, interesting, and insightful interview, Deb & Deb! With this much experience and knowledge under her belt, Deborah has a lot of good stories and experiences to share for the less achieved among us! 🙂
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She certainly does! Thanks Liesbet. ❤
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